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		<title>By: RoryR</title>
		<link>http://www.netsplit.com/2009/02/17/git-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-1863</link>
		<dc:creator>RoryR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very poetic and insightful, nice!</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dickey</title>
		<link>http://www.netsplit.com/2009/02/17/git-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-1861</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Dickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris, you&#039;re absolutely right. Other DVCS tools (Mercurial, Bazaar) seem to be more intuitive and robust while having less of a superiority complex. I&#039;m starting to lump git in with emacs and perl: they&#039;re the tools that put the &#039;über&#039; in &#039;übergeek&#039;, but for those of us who just want to get things done in the easiest, most teachable and supportable manner practical, they&#039;re completely counterproductive.

I don&#039;t expect git to go away, any more than emacs has; neither has to be commercially successful, or even grow outside a tiny, self-congratulatory echo chamber of geekery where self-referential obscurity is seen as a primary virtue. As time goes on and the folks who actually WANT to get things done find the sharp edges, the differences between hype and reality, they&#039;ll move on, leaving the echo chamber isolated and intact — which is what&#039;s wanted, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris, you&#8217;re absolutely right. Other DVCS tools (Mercurial, Bazaar) seem to be more intuitive and robust while having less of a superiority complex. I&#8217;m starting to lump git in with emacs and perl: they&#8217;re the tools that put the &#8216;über&#8217; in &#8216;übergeek&#8217;, but for those of us who just want to get things done in the easiest, most teachable and supportable manner practical, they&#8217;re completely counterproductive.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect git to go away, any more than emacs has; neither has to be commercially successful, or even grow outside a tiny, self-congratulatory echo chamber of geekery where self-referential obscurity is seen as a primary virtue. As time goes on and the folks who actually WANT to get things done find the sharp edges, the differences between hype and reality, they&#8217;ll move on, leaving the echo chamber isolated and intact — which is what&#8217;s wanted, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.netsplit.com/2009/02/17/git-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-1860</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many seem to be in love with GIT (not here ;) )... 

I, on the other hand, keep banging my head against the wall.  Before someone says I must be an idiot - I&#039;ve figured out more software with my eyes closed and hands tied behind my back, than you have... and whether this GIT has something great or not, it&#039;s RETARDED! I&#039;ve been using version control for 12 years - not only for software, but for CAD files as well... GIT doesn&#039;t make sense to a newbie and quite frankly the docs aren&#039;t cutting it.

Since there are projects I&#039;m after that are using GIT, I&#039;m GOING to learn it, but good gravey - WHY would anone love it? I don&#039;t know... yet.

Tools like TortioseGIT or something else that removes Learning the BS - well then there&#039;s a tool worth getting behind.  PLEASE more people help out with the project and get it FULLY GOING!

Or could GIT just Git Itself Theeffouttahere!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many seem to be in love with GIT (not here <img src='http://www.netsplit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )&#8230; </p>
<p>I, on the other hand, keep banging my head against the wall.  Before someone says I must be an idiot &#8211; I&#8217;ve figured out more software with my eyes closed and hands tied behind my back, than you have&#8230; and whether this GIT has something great or not, it&#8217;s RETARDED! I&#8217;ve been using version control for 12 years &#8211; not only for software, but for CAD files as well&#8230; GIT doesn&#8217;t make sense to a newbie and quite frankly the docs aren&#8217;t cutting it.</p>
<p>Since there are projects I&#8217;m after that are using GIT, I&#8217;m GOING to learn it, but good gravey &#8211; WHY would anone love it? I don&#8217;t know&#8230; yet.</p>
<p>Tools like TortioseGIT or something else that removes Learning the BS &#8211; well then there&#8217;s a tool worth getting behind.  PLEASE more people help out with the project and get it FULLY GOING!</p>
<p>Or could GIT just Git Itself Theeffouttahere!?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Olsen</title>
		<link>http://www.netsplit.com/2009/02/17/git-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-1858</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Olsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul: Fast for local operations, but still damn slow for that initial download.  Every version control system is (or is that just DVCS?  Haven&#039;t done a SVN checkout in a while.)

Ironically, a tarball is the best option for the initial checkout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul: Fast for local operations, but still damn slow for that initial download.  Every version control system is (or is that just DVCS?  Haven&#8217;t done a SVN checkout in a while.)</p>
<p>Ironically, a tarball is the best option for the initial checkout.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gideon Dann</title>
		<link>http://www.netsplit.com/2009/02/17/git-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-1857</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gideon Dann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RoryR =&gt;

Git was designed to take advantage of the way POSIX filesystem layers operate, particularly in Linux.  It&#039;s tuned to be *rediculously fast* on these systems.  As a side-effect, performance sucks in Windows.  The msysgit guys have done an amazing job just getting it to work semi-decently in Windows.

If you want something to work quickly in Windows, use Bazaar or Mercurial.  They&#039;re orders of magnitude slower on POSIX systems, but they&#039;re more portable.  That&#039;s the tradeoff you have to choose.</description>
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<p>Git was designed to take advantage of the way POSIX filesystem layers operate, particularly in Linux.  It&#8217;s tuned to be *rediculously fast* on these systems.  As a side-effect, performance sucks in Windows.  The msysgit guys have done an amazing job just getting it to work semi-decently in Windows.</p>
<p>If you want something to work quickly in Windows, use Bazaar or Mercurial.  They&#8217;re orders of magnitude slower on POSIX systems, but they&#8217;re more portable.  That&#8217;s the tradeoff you have to choose.</p>
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		<title>By: RoryR</title>
		<link>http://www.netsplit.com/2009/02/17/git-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-1856</link>
		<dc:creator>RoryR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to use Git is like being on LOST. If you want to see ultimate half-baked suckage, try installing and using git on a Windows server and client. I was forced to give up and went with Subversion, a much more mature product with better integration with mainstream development environments, OS&#039;s and IDEs, and semi-usable documentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to use Git is like being on LOST. If you want to see ultimate half-baked suckage, try installing and using git on a Windows server and client. I was forced to give up and went with Subversion, a much more mature product with better integration with mainstream development environments, OS&#8217;s and IDEs, and semi-usable documentation.</p>
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		<title>By: B.W.</title>
		<link>http://www.netsplit.com/2009/02/17/git-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-1854</link>
		<dc:creator>B.W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Git makes it way to hard to do simple things. I&#039;ve used SVN, CVS, Perforce, Mercurial, VSS. None make it as difficult as git. I always thought version control was supposed to be brainless, not an exercise in frustration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Git makes it way to hard to do simple things. I&#8217;ve used SVN, CVS, Perforce, Mercurial, VSS. None make it as difficult as git. I always thought version control was supposed to be brainless, not an exercise in frustration.</p>
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		<title>By: T.M.</title>
		<link>http://www.netsplit.com/2009/02/17/git-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-1853</link>
		<dc:creator>T.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree, it sucks! Much too complicated to use</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree, it sucks! Much too complicated to use</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dickey</title>
		<link>http://www.netsplit.com/2009/02/17/git-sucks/comment-page-2/#comment-1846</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Dickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lol (&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1845&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;earlier comment&lt;/a&gt;):

No, YOU suck.
- Anonymous comment: -∞ for relevance
- &quot;xxx sucks&quot; w/o details on why: -∞ for commenter maturity and intelligence
- needlessly stomping on someone just because you disagree with them: -∞ for commenter maturity and intelligence
...

So... can you do better? Build something better than git or svn or bzr or LSMFT, build a community and an ecosystem/infrastructure around your new creation and make the world see how much better it is?

Didn&#039;t think so.

Eff off. And grow up. Not necessarily in that order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lol (<a href="#comment-1845" rel="nofollow">earlier comment</a>):</p>
<p>No, YOU suck.<br />
- Anonymous comment: -∞ for relevance<br />
- &#8220;xxx sucks&#8221; w/o details on why: -∞ for commenter maturity and intelligence<br />
- needlessly stomping on someone just because you disagree with them: -∞ for commenter maturity and intelligence<br />
&#8230;</p>
<p>So&#8230; can you do better? Build something better than git or svn or bzr or LSMFT, build a community and an ecosystem/infrastructure around your new creation and make the world see how much better it is?</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Eff off. And grow up. Not necessarily in that order.</p>
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		<title>By: lol</title>
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		<dc:creator>lol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, you again, of course you won&#039;t let my reply to be on your page, but dude seriously you are incredibly biased, your employer gives the money to develop bzr (btw bzr sucks) your opinion on git is worthless you should concentrate on fixing bzr issues, if you think bzr is so good that it beats git, take a look at the emacs development list, they are really suffering because of bzr, they are using bzr for political reasons but many developers just hate bzr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, you again, of course you won&#8217;t let my reply to be on your page, but dude seriously you are incredibly biased, your employer gives the money to develop bzr (btw bzr sucks) your opinion on git is worthless you should concentrate on fixing bzr issues, if you think bzr is so good that it beats git, take a look at the emacs development list, they are really suffering because of bzr, they are using bzr for political reasons but many developers just hate bzr.</p>
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