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	<title>Comments on: Upstart can now replace sysvinit</title>
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		<title>By: Howard Coles Jr</title>
		<link>http://www.netsplit.com/2006/09/01/upstart-can-now-replace-sysvinit/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Coles Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When was this Blog entry actually written?  It had a date of Oct. 4, but now shows Sept. 22.  I&#039;m kinda&#039; confused here.

But, on the topic of Upstart, it appears to have a lot of promise.  However, my concern is that we&#039;re going to see a lot of branching in differing startup methods across various distros.  What interest has been shown by other distro folks? (say openSUSE, fedora, etc.)

The other question is what about runlevels.  How do we set runlevel or running environments, such as runlevel three with no X or runlevel 2 (as in Debian) or runlevel 5 (as in SUSE and RedHat) with X?  

Also is there any hope the Debian folks or anyone else has decided to get with the Linux program and have the same runlevels across all distros mean the same thing?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When was this Blog entry actually written?  It had a date of Oct. 4, but now shows Sept. 22.  I&#8217;m kinda&#8217; confused here.</p>
<p>But, on the topic of Upstart, it appears to have a lot of promise.  However, my concern is that we&#8217;re going to see a lot of branching in differing startup methods across various distros.  What interest has been shown by other distro folks? (say openSUSE, fedora, etc.)</p>
<p>The other question is what about runlevels.  How do we set runlevel or running environments, such as runlevel three with no X or runlevel 2 (as in Debian) or runlevel 5 (as in SUSE and RedHat) with X?  </p>
<p>Also is there any hope the Debian folks or anyone else has decided to get with the Linux program and have the same runlevels across all distros mean the same thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, presumably in the example provided, the starting of udev is akin to Solaris&#039;s svcadm starting a service?

In other words, a service such as sshd would be started in the same way as udev is started - by an explicit operator command that sshd should be started on boot and stopped on shutdown?

What security considerations are there in converting to Upstart? Access to config files can be controlled in the same way as access to /etc/init.d/ scripts, but if anybody can &quot;initctl trigger event&quot;, then initctl will need to be very carefully written (maybe with the help of sudo?)

Steve

(PS. I&#039;m not sure the &quot;x days later&quot; feature is working on the blog; the original post was (as of now, 4th Oct) 12 days ago, but your last most was &quot;30 days later&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, presumably in the example provided, the starting of udev is akin to Solaris&#8217;s svcadm starting a service?</p>
<p>In other words, a service such as sshd would be started in the same way as udev is started &#8211; by an explicit operator command that sshd should be started on boot and stopped on shutdown?</p>
<p>What security considerations are there in converting to Upstart? Access to config files can be controlled in the same way as access to /etc/init.d/ scripts, but if anybody can &#8220;initctl trigger event&#8221;, then initctl will need to be very carefully written (maybe with the help of sudo?)</p>
<p>Steve</p>
<p>(PS. I&#8217;m not sure the &#8220;x days later&#8221; feature is working on the blog; the original post was (as of now, 4th Oct) 12 days ago, but your last most was &#8220;30 days later&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott James Remnant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott James Remnant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want &quot;bzr branch&quot;, not &quot;bzr co&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want &#8220;bzr branch&#8221;, not &#8220;bzr co&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nico Dietrich</title>
		<link>http://www.netsplit.com/2006/09/01/upstart-can-now-replace-sysvinit/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico Dietrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, is there actually no code or am too stupid to use bazaar for a simple checkout??

I&#039;m doing 
`bzr co http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~keybuk/upstart/main`</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, is there actually no code or am too stupid to use bazaar for a simple checkout??</p>
<p>I&#8217;m doing<br />
`bzr co <a href="http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~keybuk/upstart/main" rel="nofollow">http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~keybuk/upstart/main</a>`</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> -- â€œcheckfsâ€ task is started on the â€œnew-block-deviceâ€ event to check the filesystem. --

How will checkfs know *which* filesystem to check?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211; â€œcheckfsâ€ task is started on the â€œnew-block-deviceâ€ event to check the filesystem. &#8211;</p>
<p>How will checkfs know *which* filesystem to check?</p>
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